We’ve got two more clips from our in-depth sit down with Udacity’s founder Sebastian Thrun. In previous segments we talked about what has worked for Udacity as a business and Thurn’s radical thoughts on teaching.

In these segments we talk less about Udacity as a company and more about the problems with education on a macro level.

In the first segment, we drill down on something Thrun hinted at in any earlier clip: How Udacity plans on fixing computer science education from high school through continuing education for professionals. The biggest problem is that the industry’s needs move faster than schools and faculty can, Thrun says.

We also talked about why the United States talks so much about the value of education but does so little to innovate or solve the problem. According to Thrun part of the issue is that the “switching costs are insanely high” when it comes to college. In other words, education is so important that if you take a gamble on a new format that isn’t very good, the mistake could last a student a lifetime.

Here’s why Thrun says that resistance is finally wearing down. (Or at least, he and his investors hope it is.)