Several years ago, I joked that Lyft’s investors— a motley crew that includes Japanese conglomerates, billionaire hedge funds, other ride-sharing startups, sharp elbowed activists like Carl Icahn, and major venture capitalists like Andreessen Horowitz, Founders Fund and Floodgate— as the coalition of billionaires investing against Uber as much as they were investing in Lyft.

On October 19 last year, another one joined the ranks: Alphabet — Google and Waymo’s parent company — lead a new $1 billion Lyft round. The same one embroiled in a multi-billion trade theft lawsuit with Uber. The same one that was once also an investor in Uber. This has never been an industry where allies stay allies forever. And Lyft’s co-founders John Zimmer and Logan Green have long been “the nice guys.”

The nice guys have certainly seized on the moment as Uber’s scandals have mounted. A couple of years ago, when stories of sexism and misogyny at Uber began to hit the mainstream, I sat down with Zimmer to discuss the company’s early days and how those “nice guys” survive in such a cut-throat industry. The transcript of what Zimmer had to say is just as fascinating and relevant today...